Socialists hate poor people

this is the shallowest claptrap I have read in many a year. Get a grip. You have left all humanity on planet earth without a hope:vikings standing alone on a frozen shore , the wind whipping through their hair. Only the oars and the sea have future in them. Let us reach out and hold hands with the children we bear and see a better time when it’s made by us. The winds and the sea and the times are hard masters and mistresses soon enough. Betides sir, and open up to mercy and the kindly glance on strangers who could easily be yourself. Christmas 2007

People don’t always make the best decisions at the margin, and people don’t always make the most efficient investments on their own, or with their finite individual resources. There is a reason why people seek out investors to start projects, just as investors seek out minds to manage surplus savings. There is a reason why big box stores can deliver their products more efficiently than non-chain outlets. The efficiency of competition is real, but it is pretty hard to appreciate once it starts devolving to nothing more than obnoxious advertisements, and flashy, wasteful packaging.

General purpose, territory-wide institutions probably aren’t the best management vehicles for overseeing any particular project, howsoever needed. Nation-states have only been around 500 years or so, so they are still an unfamiliar technology to most, the capabilities of which are simultaneously underestimated and overestimated. However, the need for social investments doesn’t just evaporate because the tools at hand are ill formed.

Ideally, perhaps you would have very narrowly defined institutions with the capacity to organize investment, and yield oversight for a particular project. Centralized taxation perhaps is also suboptimal. Perhaps you could get around that with a more dynamic notion of units of exchange, or perhaps a multitude of specialized, non-transferable currencies. Perhaps with enough computational horsepower, you could have an entirely contractarian governing vehicle where citizens can direct penny for penny where their investments are directed, but with a lot broader options than those yielded by traditional markets with their high barrier to entry and investment organization.

Contractarian socialism would need to move far away from the general parliament, even when it comes to putting up protections for the public good, even when said public are self-selected voluntary citizens, themselves operating in semi-autonomous sovereign municipalities within larger organizations with more finite, generalist power.

The simple fact is, current libertarians are misled by believing that a sacrosanct union exists between contemporary territorial democracies, ironclad property rights, a universalizable unit of exchange, and liberty. In reality, they are merely settling for what the current state of technology offers.

The status quo is an advancement over the past, but it still has problems where inclinations to protect property rights supersede the inclination to protect liberty. It is a gnostic/ideological misnomer to believe they are always in accord - keeping them in line requires a massive state apparatus to preclude actions that point otherwise. You still have people becoming literal “wage slaves,” which is really a much less cute term than co-optive media makes it. You still have immense barriers to investment, to entrepreneurship, and often to competition where corporatist states form, or where the seed of state capitalism takes root.

Socialism?

Great idea.

Wrong species.

[...] Socialists hate poor people [...]

Unfortunately there is a problem with the thesis. The problem…The thesis is concerned with an ideal. Reality is the way that life is.

Life in an ideal environment is NOT REAL. It is SURREAL. I prefer to deal with reality, not surreality. Thus I am more effective in dealing with my life.

So just what is real? The reality is that the Libertarian model just does not work. The model does not function in the Real World.

The Libertarian model, the model that the forefathers of the Republic of the United States of America set in motion with the ratification of the U.S. Constitution in 1789, FAILED. If it had not failed I would not be sitting here at my desk pecking away at my keyboard and posting this comment. Yet, the sad reality is that the Libertarian model of Government failed. Our forefathers are “rolling in their graves” as I write…

And since it failed then it is not profitable to attempt the Grand Experiment again…Stupidity can be defined as repeating the same behavior and expecting a different result.

No, please do not misunderstand me. I am not critizing the ideal. After all it was ideal…a most excellent ideal. I happen to support the ideal. Sometimes I will enjoy daydreaming of the ideal…That is a good escape from reality…Sometimes.

But the sad truth IS that the ideal government that our forefathers established FAILED. The reasons behind the failure are as complex as humans are complex. The main reason behind the failure, however, can be surmised by writing the succinct statement that humans are fallable. That means ALL HUMANS.

Yes…self interest…self motivation…leading to…self destruction. Humans are morally corrupt and not ideal. ALL HUMANS!!! Including you…including me. Some humans are not as corrupt as others but that is just a matter of degree.

Since we are not ideal it is impossible to have an ideal system function. There is a common phrase that computer geeks as myself use when describing the functionality of a system…Garbage in…garbage out. That is the reason behind the corruption of our, and every other nation state on the face of the planet, government. It is because we all are corrupt. All of us. This is sad. This is truth.

Now the English have a way of stating this that is rather humorous…But I can’t remember it right now. That doesn’t matter. Everyone sins. EVERYONE. Now I remember the saying. They say that, “Everybody has their own little fiddle…” They are correct in their assesment. Everyone fiddles about. You…I…We all fiddle about.

I know of people who will fudge on their tax returns. I know of people who will deal in drugs, prostitution, and a variety of petty crimes. I know of people who will defacate on company time so that they are paid for relieving themselves. I have met people who will repair automobiles when there is not a problem.

But then this is just not people who are morally corrupt. Corporations are organizations of fallible people. So just what do you think will manifest from an organization filled with fallible people?

Why, in February of this year I handed the clerk at the local Jack in the Box a Twenty Dollar bill. I did not receive anything for that money. They just took it!!! When I called to report the theft the Senior Manager of Customer Relations at Jack in the Box Corporate Offices demanded a police report in order for me to receive a refund. Now how much is my time worth? It would cost me more than Twenty Dollars in time to retrieve my Twenty Dollars. The corporate officers know that and they will capitalize on that in order to get away with an outright theft.

I had overpaid Cox Communications and had a $360 credit on my bill back in 2001. I did this intentionally so that in the case that I inadvertanly forgot to pay the bill in a month then they would not be able to charge me a late charge. Do you know what they did? They disconnected my cable service and kept the money.

Even corporations will steal from the public so that they can return dividends to their stockholders. Do you really believe that the authorities care about that? No, the government receives kickbacks and payoff from the corporations so that they can skirt the law.

Why do you think that this occurs? It is simple. Governments are organizations that are filled with morally corrupt humans. So just what do think will manifest from an organization filled with morally corrupt people?

Now I can write of some corrupt behaviors that I have done and that would only lead to incrimination. I am not stupid. Yet I write this in HONESTY as I am also corrupted by the desires of the flesh. I sin. I have not yet met a Human Being who has not one skeleton in his closet to hide. Have you? Do you have skeletons in your closet?

Don’t you see? That is the REALITY. Unfortunately we have to deal with this reality. WE ARE FALLIBLE. That is the way that it is.

Now you can sit and fritter your time away ranting about “those bleeding heart Socilaists”, or, “those cold hearted Facsists”, or, even those “wishy washy moderates” if you’d like. After all it is your time to fritter away si vous plait.

And after all is written about all of the “injustices”, the “ain’t it awful’s”, the “should be’s”, the “could be’s”, the “would be’s”, and, of course, the “if only’s” you will find that you have just frittered your precious time away. Because all of those deal with ideals and NOT REAL’s. So what does your ranting profit you? NOTHING. What does your ranting change? NOTHING.

And you can daydream about the ideals all day long, that is, if you choose to. And then you can work up yourself into a storm and raise your blood pressure to stratospheric heights with puffed up self indignation while declaring your self righteousness if you’d like. What does that profit you? Perhaps…an early grave?

Idealism??? Well that’s nice and all of that. But that is just what it is…a daydream. Because idealism just does not work in the real world. Therefore the Libertarian model just does not work in the REAL world because it is an ideal.

Now if you desire change…LOOK IN THE MIRROR. You must change yourself and modify yourself to become as ideal, as moral, as you can possibly be. That is the only person that you can change.

If you behave immorally…STOP!!! Now you can justify immoral behavior but that does not make it justified…at all. After all the easiest person to lie to is yourself.

I am a Christian and I know that my behavior is far from ideal. I am flawed. I am a sinner. That is why I have surrendered my life to Jesus Christ and He has become my personal Lord and Savior. I realize that I will be forgiven of my sins and that you can also be forgiven yours. I find great peace in this.

So I am looking forward to eternal life with my Father in Heaven. Heaven and God are REAL and I can prove that mathematically.

Perhaps you can too when you decide to accept REALITY and not deal with a surreality if that upsets you. And I will not place my faith in Corporations, Governments, Dictatorships and other flawed organizations that are filled with flawed people. That only leads to disappointment.

Thus I have placed my faith in Jesus. Have you? That will lead to peace, tranquility, and Eternal Life with the Father.

Hatred is immoral. All socialists do not hate poor people. All capitalists do not hate poor people. But some people that embrace both of the organizations, those philosophies, actually hate ALL PEOPLE, whether rich, or poor, or the middle class. So why don’t you stop your own hatred of Socialists (That was a psychological projection of your emotions) and start loving all people, Capitalists, Socialists, and Libertarians alike? The only one that you can change is yourself. And that is where we need to start.

So why not change and let’s give peace a chance?

Tall Tom
I Cor 13